Interview on Out There Podcast

My host on the Out There Podcast, Willow Belden, asks some thought-provoking questions unlike I've been asked before. I hope you will come have a listen!

Segment on PBS show "Arizona Illustrated"

My interview on Arizona Illustrated will first air on Sunday, September 29th at 6:30 p.m. and subsequently 8 more times on KUAT Channel 6 and Channel 6 PLUS. It will also be viewable online. I hope you'll come watch!


OR Watch on YouTube (I'm the last guest.)

Odyssey Storytelling "Disaster"

What a blast I had on September 5th, 2019, telling a "Disaster" themed story at Odyssey Storytelling in Tucson, Arizona! My disaster happened while battling my very first wildfire in 1976. 

Here's the podcast link. (I'm the second storyteller.)

Firefighting dangers: Felling trees

Felling trees is a dangerous task to begin with, but that task is even more dangerous when the tree is on fire. In both cases there's a danger of limbs falling while you are cutting, the tree not falling the way you intended either because of hidden decay or other structural problems with the tree, and the phenomenon of 'barber chair', where the tree splits and kicks back at the sawyer, which can be fatal. 

Why do firefighters cut down trees that are burning? Usually it is because the tree threatens to breach the fireline, or because it is close to where fire crews are working. The challenge of cutting down a burning tree is of course standing that close to flames, but there is also the risk of the gas in the chain saw catching on fire. Watch this video to get a feel for the danger and risks involved.

Firefighting dangers: Mopping up

"Mopping up" after a wildland fire is a tedious, dirty, and difficult, but necessary, job.

Once the fire is contained within a fireline, only part of the work is done. To prevent the fire from restarting later, crews now need to comb the burned area in search of hotspots--burning stumps, logs and other debris that could threaten containment. Every single one.

One would think the danger is over now. But that's where the danger lies: believing the danger is over.

Exhaustion plays a role. The firefighter may have spent 16 hours battling the fire, and after a short break, it's time to go back to work. With the rush of adrenaline gone, it's easy to fall into the belief that you can let your guard down. But you can't. Falling trees have been known to kill people during the mop up stage. You also have to watch out for burning stumps, with hotbeds of coals that are hidden by ashes. If you step into one, you could end up with serious burns.  Rocks are loosened when there is no vegetation to hold them in place, and they can tumble at any time.

And then there is the risk that the fire restarts. In a heartbeat you go from mopping up to active fire suppression. 

Here's a video to give you an idea of what mop up entails. This lucky crew was able to have water available. Quite often this is not the case. When there is no water, you are stuck with using dirt to smother the flames, removing oxygen, or by chopping the burning roots or logs apart so they cool down.